Use Case: Biotic Interactions - Sottunga Island Melitaea cinxia Population Study

Data Publishing Diversifying the GBIF data model
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This thread can be used to discuss and provide feedback to the use case on Biotic Interactions - Sottunga Island Melitaea cinxia Population Study.

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Unfortunately, I’ll be unable to make it to your scheduled webinar today (i.e., GBIF community webinar: Diversifying the GBIF data model ).

I did already spent significant amount of time commenting on the document re: Use Case: Biotic Interactions - Sottunga Island Melitaea cinxia Population Study.

Unfortunately, the comments are not visible publicly. So, this is why I’ll share them separately here:

Jorrit Poelen
7:33 PM Jan 12
Thanks for inviting me to comment. Some highlevel comments :

  1. Real Life examples - many biotic interactions are already described using various dwc-a models. However, no real life example was listed. Suggest to include real life examples to give a idea of the range of methods to describe biotic interactions that exist today.

  2. Consider technical / social adoption risks - I can see how your proposal make sense for you. However, I imagine that the model might be a bit intimidating for others. How are you evaluating the risks like: adoption, easy of implementation, easy of maintenance, ability to map existing data into the proposed model, performance considerations etc.

  3. Prior Art - many project exist today that have implemented a way to model biotic interaction. However, none of them are mentioned as far as I can tell, only DwC resources are mentioned. I’d suggest to include prior art non-DwC project/tools that are currently providing access to biotic interactions data (e.g. Mangal, Web of Life, iNaturalist, EMu, Specify, Symbiota, Species Connect, IWDB, GloBI)

Hope this helps and curious to hear your thoughts.

-jorrit

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  1. Anyone who has real-world examples, please provide references to them. This would also help with the preparation of a future webinar on this topic.

  2. We have opened a new topic on Socio-technical adoption as a place for this discussion, which transcends use cases.

  3. We created some narratives, such as this one, from our experience (in this case through participation in discussions in the TDWG Biotic Interactions Interest Group) and recommendations for novel cases (thank you @dschigel). The major goal of releasing use cases is to solicit feedback from stakeholders about a proposed solution, not to make a thorough review of what is being done in the community a priori, for which we do not have the resources to do alone. Thus, use cases are designed to capture exemplar narratives as directly as possible as a starting point for collecting feedback. Please see also the topic Socio-technical adoption.

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Interactions can be difficult in museum collections because they are often recorded in a “note” field of some type. Here are some examples of the many ways interactions might be discovered.

Directly asserted
https://arctos.database.museum/guid/Arctos:Entity:38

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Indirectly asserted
https://arctos.database.museum/guid/APSU:Herp:13193
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https://arctos.database.museum/guid/UMNH:Mamm:44498

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In working with GloBI, we have tried to get the indirectly asserted interactions published, but we could do better in making them more direct.

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Hello again!

I was pleasantly surprised to see that @tuco responded to some of the comments I left in an associated google doc [1] in January 2022 (two years ago).

I attempted to respond to the new replies the best I could.

Specifically, I wanted to point out the following comments I left today:

“Respectfully, I have spent many (unpaid) hours in assisting you in developing these use cases. If you are serious about this, I’d suggest you actually pay people for their contributions.”

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“This, and the considerable delay between my comments (years), makes me hesitant to contribute. Please let me know if you have any ideas to make our collaboration for mutually beneficial.”

While I am grateful to all the great work that the GBIF community does, I do hope we figure out a way to re-use existing tools/efforts beyond the GBIF universe as well as setting up mutually beneficial collaborations between large institutions and the many small contributors that make up our community.

I am writing this with the best intentions and with the aim to better use the capacities we have as a biodiversity informatics community.

Thank you,
-jorrit

References

[1] GBIF Community. 2024. “Use Case: Biotic Interactions - Sottunga Island Melitaea cinxia Population Study” 13_biotic_interactions - Google Docs accessed on 2024-04-10 as described by https://linker.bio/hash://sha256/516e6931bb0d7470938cbe9d5223e4b60d7f790327079de50fe785ea99fd0022 . See also archived copies and versioned snapshots 13_biotic_interactions.pdf and 13_biotic_interactions.docx